Hello

CCIE is a great accomplishment, but is it enough to be very good in networking?
As i am working, it seems that it is not enough.

Ernesti

You need to know your shit basically

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CCIE certification does not make a good engineer. As we've learned in the past, just about anybody can dump and pass the CCIE. What makes a good engineer is working with the devices and configurations and making things work, learning how things work, troubleshooting, hands on, and gaining experience through day to day activities. Thant makes a good engineer.

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I would go for the A+....

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of course

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Isn't CCIE lab REALLY difficult? Multiple scenarios given with limited options available to resolve issues. I would think a CCIE certified engineer (NOT written portion), would definitely candidate a person as a good engineer.

give them a good canadcy yes for sure, but CCIE doesn't always mean good. If all I could do is look at someone's resume it would take an awful lot to trump a CCIE, but you can cheat your way though the IE test.

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Keep in mind the CCIE is not focused on best practice and proper design. Its geared to knowing each technology in depth and being able to deploy in any scenario. My first concern with a candidate that has a CCIE and limited experience is there ability to work in the real world as a Sr level engineer and deploy practical solutions that work for the customer. Yeah they can configure MPLS VPNs and complex QoS strategies in their sleep but is that the best design?

More times than not in the real world your not fighting the technology you are fighting the people at layer 8. the CCIE does not teach you these skills

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The IEs are centered around a set of specific technologies - a good network engineer should be well-versed in most technologies, or at least get the big picture of technologies he's not as familiar with.

Ask an expert to troubleshoot/implement technologies he's been tested on and there won't be a problem. Don't expect X when he only knows Y.

Anyways, that's just my inexperienced 2 cents.

QFT

The CCIE is an incredible achievement that pairs well with real-world experience. IMO, a good network engineer also has soft skills such as the ability to communicate effectively with coworkers and other teams, as well as the ability to document and present complex network designs and ideas.

I am also going to go out on a limb and claim that a great network engineer has a decent understanding of the systems and applications that are running on the network, and is able to be a proactive force in providing reliable transport for mission-critical applications to succeed. /speech

At the least, you should be able to provide a solid defense that it is not "always the network" at fault. 8)

Theres a massive amount of threads on this. But in the end experience and the ability to adapt and learn to new technologies makes a great engineer.

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There are a lot of technologies, Cisco is a good seller, but we can not forget Mikrotik, Zyxel, Juniper etc.
Our market needs men that have hands on the technology not only Cisco.
CCIE is only a card to pass to the next step, or to show to the employer that he doesn't have any excuse to rise you.(salary, position)

Sure we can.

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lol, i lold^.

OK, Mikrotik is very cheap and can handle processor jobs that cisco is not able do handle.
Also can be installed on machines, so can we still forget it?
Mikrotik Core cloud 36 CPU .!!!

Mikrotik is fine for soho and that's about it. I doubt that will change unless there is some serious investment


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They're big in the WiSP space too. Not too relevant in my world. They do make some good products though.

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Mikrotik can be installed on machines, also cloud core mikrotik with millions of pps is not soho.

16Gbps throughput doesn't sound like a core router to me.

I'm not saying Mikrotik isn't good for what it's designed for, I just don't see them used in big core topologies

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please dont post your dump crap here!

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