networking-forum.com
Community BlogCommunity Wiki * Register  * Search  * Login
View unanswered postsView active topics

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:02 am 
Offline
Junior Member
Junior Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:35 pm
Posts: 56
Certs: CCENT, CCNA, CCNP, CCNA Security, IOS Security
i recently took my CCNP Switch (642-813) after foolishly trusting wholeheartedly in the Cisco Press Official Certification Guide. the book was a good read, IMO, but i noticed several topics missing come exam day.

i don't intend on giving away exam questions, but i'd like to point out to other test takers the topics they should include in their studies. if you know of similar situations, feel free to contribute ( i know i'm not the first to mistakenly trust Cisco Press to cover all topics)

642-813 topics missing from the Official Exam Guide
    EIGRP (seriously)
    IP SLA (configuration/practical use)
    SNMP
    Planning (campus network VLAN building process)
    Syslog


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:36 am 
Offline
New Member
New Member

Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:14 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Jacksonville, IL
Certs: CCNA, CCDA, CCSP, CCNA Wireless
My 2 cents... Always, always, always consult Cisco's website for the latest exam blueprint. The books are often created BEFORE the tests are actually finished. Also, I highly recommend coupling the Cisco Press Field Learning Guide with the Official Certification Guide.

_________________
--
Ben Story
CCNA, CCNA Wireless, CCDA, CCSP


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:38 am 
Offline
Senior Member
Senior Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:01 pm
Posts: 318
Location: Germany
Certs: CCNP, Sec+, Net+
I don't recall EIGRP or IP SLA on the switch exam. Interesting.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:42 am 
Offline
Member
Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:50 pm
Posts: 220
Location: NJ/NYC
Certs: CCNP, CCDA, CCNA Voice, JNCIA-Junos
The amount of EIGRP is laughable and CCNA level...shouldn't have been a concern.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:48 am 
Offline
Senior Member
Senior Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:01 pm
Posts: 318
Location: Germany
Certs: CCNP, Sec+, Net+
Chomp wrote:
The amount of EIGRP is laughable and CCNA level...shouldn't have been a concern.


Maybe that is why I don't remember it.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:44 pm 
Offline
Member
Member

Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:23 pm
Posts: 129
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Check out the errata, supplements, and appendixes available on Cisco Press for the book. There's a pretty significant amount of material around those topics in them.

http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/pro ... 1587202433


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:16 am 
Offline
Junior Member
Junior Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:35 pm
Posts: 56
Certs: CCENT, CCNA, CCNP, CCNA Security, IOS Security
Snuffleupagus wrote:
Check out the errata, supplements, and appendixes available on Cisco Press for the book. There's a pretty significant amount of material around those topics in them.

http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/pro ... 1587202433


Excellent find, i appreciate the link!

Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:48 am 
Offline
Post Whore
Post Whore
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:01 pm
Posts: 5150
Location: Canada eh
Certs: 350-001, CCNP, CXFF, ITILv3F
Also, it's important to note the Offical Cert Guides are not intended to be extremely in-depth study resources. The OFG are intended to be quick refreshers for people who need to brush up before the exam. If you need a more comprehensive resource to study from then you should get the Foundation Learning Guides.

http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/pro ... 1587058847

_________________
blog.brokennetwork.ca


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:59 am 
Offline
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:43 am
Posts: 485
Location: Bournemouth, UK
Certs: CCNP
that's interesting as I remember taking my route exam, thinking there was no IP SLA on it. So maybe that is where it is, in switch.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:53 pm 
Offline
Post Whore
Post Whore
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:43 am
Posts: 1190
Location: London
When studying for these Cisco certs, I found that the Official Certificaion Guides or any other taylored course guides in reality only cover about 80-90% of what is in the exam blueprint. It's a bit devilish if you ask me.

I found the most effective method is to print the exam blue print off and study each topic (ie; tick each one off). The taylored books will get through most of it but the stuff they don't cover , look it up on the Internet Most of the material is actually hidden in the Cisco website somewhere.

Here's a link I used on the old course (most of the stuff could still be relavent). Of course, do your own searching too.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3550/software/release/12.1_12c_ea1/configuration/guide/3550scg.html


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:08 pm 
Offline
Ultimate Member
Ultimate Member

Joined: Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:54 pm
Posts: 757
Location: Canada
Certs: CCIE R&S
The more I study, the less I pick up books. The Cisco Doc has absolutely everything you need, you can even download the PDFs and print them. Coupled with a lab or GNS3, I see no reason to actually buy anything from Cisco Press ever again (although I clearly will).

http://www.cisco.com/cisco/web/psa/defa ... ?mode=prod

For Layer 3 - Based on IOS 12.4T:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6 ... _list.html

For Layer 2 - Based on 3560s:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switche ... 60scg.html

Props to Jason for turning me onto the DocCD


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:54 pm 
Offline
Junior Member
Junior Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:19 am
Posts: 61
Certs: MCSE, CCNA, CCNP, CCSP, CCNP Security
I had the same experience too with the CCSP SNPA exam back in 2008 I guess... I read the Cisco press book and had mastered all the topics and labs. But the exam was totally focused on some totally different topic that I doubt ever would be required in real life. So i failed :( . But the Cisco website saved me next time. You always need to master the subject matters with the help of Cisco website. It's always a life saver.....

_________________
Isuru Senadheera
MCSE, CCNP, CCSP, MCITP
www.isururakshitha.org


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:38 am 
Offline
Post Whore
Post Whore
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:15 pm
Posts: 8458
Location: Frederick MD
Certs: Instanity
I've actually seen test questions coming straight out of the docs, i.e. configuration example for a specific command

_________________
"If you're good at anticipating the human mind. It leaves nothing to chance."
-Jigsaw


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: kc98gt, scffgeek and 10 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group